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6:00 p.m. in london and 8:00 p.m. in riyadh, saudi arabia. wherever you're watching from around the world, thank you so much for joining us. pope francis travels from the halls of power in washington to the streets of the nation's capital to fellowship with the poor. the third day of the pope's visit to the united states was highlighted by an historic address to congress and a visit to catholic charities in washington. his speech to congress began with the feel really of more like a presidential state of the union. here's just a moment. >> mr. speaker, the pope of the holy see. >> now, pope francis is the first pontiff to speak before a joint meeting of congress. he spoke before a packed house chamber. probably no surprise to anyone.
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he was flanked by, you saw it just there, vice president biden and the house speaker, john boehner, both catholics themselves. the pope touched on issues ranging from the climate change and the death penalty to abortion and immigration. listen. >> we, the people, of this continent, are not fearful of foreigners. because most of us -- [ applause ] because most of us were once foreigners. [ applause ] i say this to you.
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as the son of immigrants. that so many of you are also descendants from immigrants. >> now, from capitol hill, the pope visited st. patrick's church and the washington offices of catholic charities. inset of having lunch with lawmakers, he actually met with the homeless and low income families who gathered for a meal provided by the charity. later today, the pope will be leaving washington and heading here to new york to continue his u.s. tour. let's take a much closer look at that historic speech by the pope. before that joint session of congress. joining me now to discuss from washington is chief political correspondent dana bash, senior washington correspondent jeff zeleni and our chief political analyst gloria borger. dana, you were there, you were in there, where iss elistening . you've been there many times before. this was so different. give us a sense of of what you
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heard, what you sensed. >> it's funny you put it that way because i was thinking the same thing. it's easy for somebody like me, i have had the privilege of witnessing a lot of states of the union speeches, a lot of, you know, addresses to the joint meetings, heads of state, all kinds of things. this was something like i have never seen before. it was historic. it wasn't just that. more importantly, i was looking at this sea of lawmakers who also have good reason to be jaded because they have seen it all, many of them, and heard it all. the way the entire room was focused on what the pope was saying, hanging on every word, whether they agreed with what he was saying or not was something like i have never seen before. and it really -- you felt the gravity of the moment. you felt -- i mean, forgive me for saying this, but the spirituality of the moment. no matter what your father is. you could feel it in the room.
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>> i don't think there's any forgiveness when you feel that. you were listening so closely. the pope in his speech in a very often subtle and nuanced way, he touched on some very sensitive and politically contentious issues facing america right now. one of them, he tied the refugee crisis in europe, also tying it to the immigration problem facing the country here at home. this is part of what he said. i want to get your take on it. part of the speech, he said this. on this continent, too, thousands of persons are led to travel north in search of a better life for themselves and for their loved ones, in search of greater opportunities. is this not what we want for our own children? we must not be taken aback by their numbers but rather view them as persons, seeing their faces and listening to their stories, trying to respond as best we can to their situation.
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what's your take on the way he addressed this issue that everyone was expecting him to hit on and wondering how he was going to do it? >> you know, we talk about a view from 30,000 feet. this is a cosmic view of the political issues that we're discussing today, you know, our political campaign is mired in what can be a very dark and nasty discussion. about immigration. and the presidential campaign. and what the pope managed to do was take an issue that's become so pullerizing and so political, and he said, just look at people's faces. just understand that these are children. just understand that the golden rule, do unto others as you would have done to you. so he took kind of the cynicism, the polarization out of it, and he brought it to politicians in a way that we haven't been
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discussing in this country and who could disagree with what the pope said? >> and that's an excellent point. when you think of -- the question of course is, then what is the impact of his words, just? when you look at how immigration has become such a focal point especially in the republican primary. when you look at candidates like jeb bush or marco rubio, their take on immigration, in some way, it made me wonder. purely political sense. could the pope's words offer them some amount of cover for their positions for pushing for immigration reform? >> well, kate, you certainly might think that today because there certainly is a sense of bipartisanship. something that transcends that actually. i'm with dana. we've seen so many speeches here, but this was a different moment. i was standing here, just right in front of the house of representatives, watching members of congress from both parties, both chambers, standing side by side, waving to the
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pope. i thought, wow, i wonder if this will transcend this divide. i think we're being too optimistic if we think that's going to be the situation here. talking to several republicans as i have afterward and several democrats, they said, look, it might help on the margins. it might help, you know, members talk about things with one another. how many we frame things. but i just hope i'm not being too pessimistic by saying i really think we're going to be back at the same level of rhetoric that we have been, you know, leading up to this. that doesn't mean the speech and the day is not important. i think it is and it could have a longer-term effect. i think we shouldn't hit ourselves that this capital is suddenly going to become undivided. >> no, absolutely right. there's no question about that. we know they can't be too kumbaya about it unfortunately. the pope also touched on the issue of abortion. he said this, he says, a responsibility to protect and
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defend life at every stage of its development. this is something many republicans of course they were happy to hear, even though it wasn't necessarily maybe as a direct statement. maybe they wanted to hear from the pope. this is also very appropriate and timely. because this is a debate on abortion rights. also public funding for planned parenthood. that's happening right now on capitol hill. do you think his words would have an impact there? >> you know, certainly those who, for example, just on the political, the legislative issue, of planned parenthood, those who want to cut off funding, i can't imagine they're not going to use that to try to use it for the benefit. but yes, you said it was subtle, but everybody got what he was saying. he didn't need to lay it out. it was very, very clear where he was going with that. and it's an example of how sort of historically things have kind of fallen on party lines with regard to the pope and the
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catholic church. historically, it has mostly been democrats who maybe are catholic who have had a little bit of discomfortable with their own church or the pope. nancy pelosi is a perfect example. she is catholic. she was raised that way in a very, you know, kind of traditional manner. but she is also somebody who is very much for abortion rights. and so she's had some differences with past popes and with the church in and of itself. she's sort of used to being in that position because of that issue. but i think what was really new here that you really felt were republicans who were used to agreeing with the church on social issues, abortion is one example, they were for the first time really in a position where they're hearing from the pope. saying things that, you know, not in a scolding way but in a way that they didn't agree with, on immigration and on saying, point blank, that climate change is man made, which many
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republicans, i think most republicans in that chamber, don't agree with. >> absolutely, climate change, the death penlty, many other issues. very powerful, his words. jeff, dan, gloria, thank you. still ahead, we're talking about all of those in the chamber, listening to that speech. one man who was there, peter king. he was one of the many catholic members of congress in the house chamber for the pope's speech. he's going to join me live to talk about his impressions and thoughts on the pope and the politicians that were brought up. and later on, we're also going to hear about hillary clinton's latest interview. not with a member of the press but with the creator and star of the hbo series "girls." i'm going to speak with lena dunham about her discussion with hillary clinton. coming up. this isn't the most efficient way for people -or air to travel. awww! ducts produce uneven temperatures and energy loss.
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it's pretty neat to see everyone capturing those historic moments. today, in a subtle and quite nuanced way, he also touched on many of the most contentious political issues of the day in his address before that joint meeting of congress. one person with the front row seat to this historic moment, republican congressman peter king of new york, joining me now from the capital. thanks for taking the time. i want to get your take on that moment. what was it like to be in there for that historic moment, hearing the pope speak? your thoughts? >> it was extremely emotional. i am old enough to remember when john kennedy ran for president and people were opposed to him,
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and they were saying a catholic president would try to sneak the pope into the united states. sure enough there you saw the doors open and to see the pope come in with the white vestments and walk down the center aisle of congress and people of all faiths and ethnic backgrounds standing up, applauding him. basically, he was speaking universal truths. speaking as the leader of the catholic church. really, espousing truths and beliefs and principles that should be shared by everyone. it's just a very -- he had uplifting majestic moments. >> and he did in his way seemed to be uplifting. he called for everyone to come together, to work together. obviously a pretty strong message to members of congress. the pope, he did check on, though, he didn't shy away from many of the contentious issues facing congress now. immigration reform. the refugee crisis. those being two of them. he kind of tied them together. what did you think when he said -- when he said at one point in his speech we must not
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be taken aback by their numbers and also relating it to the golden rule? do on to others as you would have them do unto you? >> my main takeaway was the pope is saying we have to apply a moral dimension to what we do. which means looking beyond the political victories or defeats of the day and realizing our decisions have consequences. that's true in any government. especially in the united states where we are the world's leading power. now, immigration, he was saying don't be afraid of foreigners. look at immigrants as you would look at ourselves. also with the refugees. again, if there's going to be a difference. i was listening to your panel before. i'm a grandson of immigrants. i grew up in an immigrant community. i certainly look at immigrants or refugees, i do see myself. i certainly see my grandparents and uncles and aunts. as leaders of the country, we also have to strike that balance as having secure borders, making sure the law is observed. otherwise, you wouldn't have pass boards or visas. what i would hope for today, for
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instance, on immigration is if both sides can say, hey, we have to look at this in a moral way, a humane way, unless a way that serves the country, if each side can kcome up with one or two positions on immigration we can agree with. start the process going. start going forward. not having republicans saying everything is amnesty. or not having democrats basically saying all or nothing. it doesn't even have to be a comprehensive plan at first. get it started. start talking civilly to each other. that i think would be the best way to go forward and the best way to follow the pope's teaching. it wouldn't be all that everyone wants and there may be more that some others want. we are a divided government. we have to find a way to find common ground. >> i get the sense you weren't just there to sit there, it sounds like you were really listening and taking to heart the message the pope is trying to give off. i know you spoke to politico especially on the syrian refugee crisis, also the iran deal. you said to politico his
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opinions there are no more important than anyone else's. and i wonder if you -- if his speech today, did it change your impression, especially with regards to the syrian refugee crisis? did he change your -- did he change your mind any? >> i have said with the syrian refugees, again, any time you have a man of god in the room, it has an impact. i've followed the pope carefully. i've read him. i've followed what he says. i don't agree on some political decisions he makes but i certainly agree on the moral component to it. on the refugee crisis, i think we do have an obligation to let in refugees. i supported the boat people. i supported the bosnian refugees in the 1990s coming to this country. my concern with the syrian refugees, whatever we do has to be done in a way where we're not going to be allowing terroristings in. because this is different from previous cases. there are no databases. we know isis are trying to bring terrorists into europe and also
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our country. i have an obligation also. the pope says look after children. i don't want children at a parade or a sporting event being blown apparent by a terrorist we allowed into the country. that's the balance we have to strike. those refugees, we can accommodate a lot more refugees just on the question of numbers. the only concern i raise is on the issue of isis infiltrating those refugees because they're coming from an area where there are no background checks there are no databases. >> so do you, congressman, think there is a way for congress to -- just for yourself, to keep with the pope's teaching and his message from the speech and also keep the border -- keep the country secure, keep the children secure that you're talking about? >> yeah, we have to find a way to do it. i would also say it's not just the republican side. yesterday when the pope was at the white house, he was talking about the importance of religious liberty and people being able to espouse their beliefs. the white house, sued the sisters of the poor, they bought them to court.
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after his visit to the white house, the pope unexpectedly stopped to visit the sisters of the poor. like on abortion and also contraception. the democrats are cheering the pope today. they're also the ones who say people who espouse the pope's positions on that are waging war against women. do they really think the pope is waging a war against women? we can discuss those ush 50s and throw that other stuff out. don't be saying you're against women if you believe this and saying you're pro-amnesty or pro-open borders or whatever. let's keep it civil on both sides and do it in an intelligence way and also a moral way. >> it will be interesting if it shifts that conversation or at least the rhetoric on the conversation around these very politically and personal issues. that i think everyone would enjoy seeing. especially outside the halls of congress. i want to get your quick take. looking ahead, the pope will be coming to new york later today. he's also going to be visiting the 9/11 memorial tomorrow. just your thoughts on his decision to go there?
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>> certainly is very moving to me because i lost so many friends down there and so many people in new york did. that really is an example of the evil we face in the world today and that people have to stand together. if i can just inject something in here. when the pope is there, i hope the people in congress will realize the importance of extending the 9/11 health care bill for the cops and firefighters who are ill because of what they suffered down there and the necessity of us being vigilant and never forget those who died and see the evils and the dangers of religious extremism. here you have a tolerant religious leader and you juxtapose that with the evil jihadists who killed 3,000 innocent americans that day. >> it will be quite a moment having the pope visit that 9/11 memorial and pray there. thank you so much for your time. >> kate, thank you very much. >> thank you. so while the pope was invited by republican lawmakers, the house speaker, of course, to address the joint session of congress, his message resonated with many democrats. some of the issues i was just
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talking with with peter king. presidential candidate bernie sanders praised the pope on many points he made. listen. >> i think he came here today and touched on some very, very important issues that a lot of people would prefer not to talk about. that is the issue of poverty, the issue of environmental degradation, immigration, the death penalty, the need to do everything we can to create a peaceful world. i think he did it in a very dignified nonpartisan-type way. >> following his address to the joint session of congress, lawmakers invited the pope to stay for lunch. the pope turned them down. we're going to show you what he did instead. stay with us.
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the pope's devotion to the poor is well known. after his election in 2013, the pope adopted the name of st. francis of assisi, medieval preacher of poverty and humil y humility. the pope emphasized the importance of people opening their hearts to charity. listen. >> translator: the son of god came into this world as a homeless person. we can find no moral or social justice fa i ka, no justification whatsoever for lack of housing. >> this is the ceo of washington's catholic charities. he's joining me on the phone
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from st. patrick's in washington. monsignor, thank you so much for joining me. >> pleased to be here, thank you. >> thank you. now, the pope, a lot of folks have been talking about this, the pope, he decided to pass on the lunch, the lunch invitation he was given to have lunch with lawmakers, instead going to break bread and be with and speak with low income and the homeless, low-income families and the homeless instead. can you talk to us about that experience and how people reacted when he came in to meeting, when they came in to meeting the pope? >> he came in to st. patrick's church. where we have about 2350 clients. he greeted people them. then he gave a very strong talk about homelessness. he talked about joseph and mary, homeless, and how it was not right for that to continue. then he came into our chapel, a small blessing. the highlight for me was he came outside and we had a plan for him to say a few words and do a
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where'si in blessing of the food. he went right into the crowd. he did bless the food, but a very short blessing. he went right into the crowd. a number of children who were part of our program, were there, greeted them, and that kind of drew him to the crowd. he spent 15 minutes or so in the crowd, walking through them, tight, tight mass of people, walking through, shaking his hand and touching him, getting selfies with the pope. it was an amazing experience. >> monsignor, this is something this pope is known for. kind of making unexpectedly going into the crowd and taking time for people. i mean, you know, everyone's made kind of all of the unexpecteds and he's riding around in a fiat, not the normal entourage a vip would be riding around when he's in washington. what is the real impact of that aspect of the pope, do you think? >> i think number one, believe that his actions speak louder
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than words. the fiat says something. it says, talked about the environment, talked about people trying to be more careful with the use of resources. the fiat makes a message. it says that i believe that we need to take care of people in need and we should not basically neglect them. we should find a way to reap out to them. the impact of what he does when he goes to the crowd, when he spontaneously does what he does so often, i think it makes him more human. it makes people say he's one of us. if you are locked into an agent, you feel like your more robotic. we love the fact he's so spontaneous, so open, so outgoing. it's been a great experience to have him here. >> you can see the spont inanei i can't get enough of his entrances and exits because of these interactions he has with
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the crowds everywhere he goes. this is the first time, the first visit by the pope to catholic charities. obviously a momentous occasion. why do you think the organization was picked? >> well, in washington, we have the most comprehensive -- so we're pretty big. cardinal wuehrl has been to our dinner program on numerous occasions and served dinner with us. he said, you could come to catholic charities. i've seen what happens there. i've seen the staff and the volunteers. that would be a great site for the pope to get a sense of the needs of the people. i think he came because of that. cardinal couldn't have been more excited the pope was coming to one of his favorite charities. >> one of the times when a bright spotlight is shown on an organization is a wonderful thing and that has happened for catholic charities in washington
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today. monsignor, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. what a gift to us. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> much more of our coverage of the pope's visit ahead. also, next, a very special conversation with hillary clinton. actress and star and creator of "gears," lena dunham, she's joining me to talk about her sit-down with the presidential hopeful. stay with us.
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supporter. dunham asks clinton whether she identifies herself as a feminist. listen. >> i think the question is do you consider yourself a feminist? >> yes, absolutely. you know, i'm always a little bit puzzled when any woman of whatever age but particularly a young woman says something like, and you've heard it, something like, well, i believe in equal rights but i'm not a feminist. well, a feminist is by definition someone who believes in equal rights. i'm hoping that people will not be abe fraud to say that doesn't mean you hate men. it doesn't mean you want to separate out the world so that you're not, you know, part of the ordinary life. that's not what it means at all. it just means that we believe women have the same rights as men politically, culturally, socially, economically. that's what it means.
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>> it's one part of the conversation. lena dunham is joining me right now by phone. lena, thank you so much for jumping on the phone to discuss this. >> thank you for having me, we're really, really excited about the interview. it's an honor. >> thank you so much for joining us. so i understand, as i read, that you taped this interview earlier this month. tell us, how did this interview come back? >> this interview came back -- i have been an active clinton supporter for a long time, and i have been very excited obviously by the fact that she's running, by the fact that her campaign headquarters are in my own borough. i paid a visit to the campaign headquarters and talked about this new project my creative partner jenny and i have launched, and they were kind enough to grant us access to hillary for the first issue of our newsletter which comes out september 29th. >> tell me more about what you've hit on. you touched on the idea of
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feminism. what are the topics you discussed? >> well, it was really important to us to ask hillary about topics that are important to our lenny readership. those range from college debt to spreading the vote to reproductive rights and justice to getting out the vote. to splpolice brutality. to getting to know hillary as a person. to show young women she was also at one point, you know, a woman at a crossroads. she wasn't always this sort of political figure she presents us today. >> it's really interesting you say that. that was one of the things. this interview is seen as part of a move by hillary clinton and her campaign to appeal to younger female voters. something that you are wildly successful at targeting that kind of an audience. why do you think -- you talk about humanizing her and making her -- showing us maybe a softer side of her which is something
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the campaign's doing. why do you think she struggled to excite that generation that you have such a connection with through your work? >> well, i do think that millennials have an interest in meeting a wide-ranging and fresh set of candidates. and that while hillary does have a connection to a previous presidential decade, we -- she actually has something very modern and very fresh to bring to us. really what we wanted was just to present hillary outside of being a presidential candidate as a feminist role model, as someone who represents so much of what is interesting and challenging and unique about being a woman in america at this time, and i do think we expect really different things in terms of likability from our female candidates than we do from our male candidates and that's a longer conversation for another tie, which is why sometimes when people use terms like we want her to get her act warm or act
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likable. those are frustrating terms because it's different terms than we apply to a male candidate. >> her campaign was talking about more heart and humor from hillary. it is something we know they have struggled with. i would actually love to hear what you would -- how you would advise hillary clinton in terms of how to connect with that kind of an audience, because you are so successful at drawing that younger, especially finale, viewer or voter, that demographic, you're very successful at drawing them to your work. what advice would you give hillary clinton? >> well, thank you so much for that compliment. i really felt in our time with hillary, what she was able to express to us was a really great mix of honesty and candor about issues that are important to women. and people of my generation. and also a vulnerability and really making it clear that she is not super human, that she's
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someone who has had the range of experiences that all millennial women are currently struggling with. i thought she did a wonderful job. i know everyone in the room was impressed and moved by the interview. it was an honor for us. >> i also read that the comedian and really i kind of call her the woman having quite her moment right now, amy schumer, she also makes a cameo in this -- in your interview. can you clue us in to how that plays out? give us something. give us a little bit of color here. >> amy schumer does make a cameo. we're very, very excited to debut that. it came about really organically. amy is a close friend of jenny and mine and we consider her sort of a sister in arms. night before we texted her and i said, are you by any chance a hillary girl? she said, i am indeed and i'll be there at 10:00 a.m. >> so this wasn't necessarily preplanned, you're just texting with a friend the night before and she shows up and makes a cameo in your interview? >> exactly, 100%.
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and that's, you know, gives you a sense of how supportive women in comedy are of each other. >> so you can give me your cell phone number, i'll text you, so we can coordinate, so i can come up and make a cameo on "girls" sometime. >> perfect. >> just consider it, you can mull it over later. >> great. >> i do want to get your take, lena, of course obviously we're talking about you've been an early and vocal supporter of hillary this election. you've also campaigned in the past for obama and biden. what do you think about the prospect of hillary in the race but also the prospect of biden jumping in? >> you know, i am a huge -- i've loved every moment of supporting president obama. i'm so grateful for what i think -- for the strides i feel he's made for this country. and i have for a long time felt like it was an exciting time for a woman with hillary's experience and authority to step to the forefront. >> lena dunham, great to have you jump on the phone. appreciate it.
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>> thank you. >> for all of our viewers, i know lena was talking about it, the conversation between hillary clinton and lena, featured on that is going to launch tuesday september 29th. thank you for joining us. coming up for us, pope francis prepares for a visit to ground zero. the powerful service that he has planned tomorrow at the 9/11 memorial and museum with families and first responders. we're going to get a little preview coming up. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare?
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we have a new number on the race between hillary clinton and senator bernie sanders. clinton still holds a sizable lead in the latest poll. she's at 43%. sanders at 25%. joe biden obviously still has not declared he's going to run. he sits at 18%. now as we look at the republican side, donald trump remains in the lead with 25%. that's down from august. ben carson sits in second place at 17%. and carly fiorina getting the post debate bump is in third at 12%. it's jeb bush right beyond that at 10%. and a big moment for marco rubio on the rise. he's levelled his own criticisms on donald trump and that led to this maybe not surprisingly coming from donald trump earlier today on "new day." >> look marco rubio sits behind
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a desk sometimes and reads stuff. he's in committees. that's all he does. i create jobs all day long. i'll know more about all of this than all of them put together. we'll have a winning strategy. if marco rubio is good, how come we're doing so badly? we have to win. these guys don't know how to win. marco rubio, he's like a kid. e he shouldn't even be running in this race as far as i'm concerned. he's a kid. >> there you go, the latest from donal donald tru donald trump. also donald trump's boycott on fox news. that could be over soon. fox now says that the chairman spoke with trump this morning and they are going to meet next week to talk about the complaints that fox is treating him unfairly. as we know, donald trump thinks quite a lot, almost everyone treats him unfairly when they criticize him. back to our main major story of the day. you're looking at the freedom tower in lower manhattan in new
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york. tomorrow pope francis is going to be heading there to the 9/11 memorial and museum to lead an inner faith service for survivors, family members and first responders. during his visit the pope is also going to get to see some of the artifacts that took on religious significance in the wake of the terror attacks. chief among them is the famous steel beam cross recovered from the wreckage of the world trade center. joining me to discuss is the president of the 9/11 memorial and museum. thank you for being here. it's so -- i'm fascinated you're here today because the lost time we spoke was right when the museum was just about to open last year. >> absolutely. we have been open about 15 months. i think that pope francis's visit is an indication of how this museum has been embraced and how the story of what happened on that day needs to be shared with the world. >> joe, give us a run down of how this all came about. when did you hear that the
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pope -- i don't know if the inany vags was extended, but how it came about that he was going to visit the memorial? >> when the pope was coming to the u.s., it started out just in philadelphia. then an idea to come to new york. as soon as we heard that, there was a a lot of talk with the arch diocese and folks from the vatican that if you're coming to new york city, this is a place that tough come to and we showed his team the site, the memorial, the museum and it happened pretty quickly after that. >> give me more detail about what the pope is going to see, who he's going to interact with and what is on the agenda? >> so tomorrow after he addresses the general assembly, he'll come down to the memorial. he will stop before the south pool exactly where the south tower stood and remember the names that are on the memorial and the people behind them. he will then go into the museum and we're going to have an interface service that the arch diocese is hosting.
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so representative of all the major religions with pope francis giving a message of peace. >> have you spoken to the families of the survivors? >> we have had so many incredibly powerful visits since we have opened. but pope francis, the way the families are talking, you can imagine this spot is one of the most sacred in the united states. to have this pope who is so beloved come and remember their u loved ones, the families and the first responders really couldn't be more honored to have this happen. >> i'm fascinated to hear what the pope says about his impressions of the memorial. you walked me through it. it's not something you can describe in words. it's something you have to feel when you go. it will be so fascinating. >> i will be there during parts of it. some of the artifacts that are so important. the cross, which essentially revealed itself during the very difficult nine-month recovery period, to have pope francis in front of that cross has the
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world watches will be historic. >> what do you hope is the resounding message coming from this visit? obviously, it's wonderful having any world leader, high profile person highlight the memorial. what's the message? >> this pope and this visit will reenforce the positive legacy of 9/11, which is that in the seconds a after the attacks took place, people came together with limitless compassion and love for one another and pope francis, there's no one better in the world to reenforce that message. >> it will be a moment, absolutely, that everyone will be watching. it's great to see you. thank you for coming here. i really appreciate it. thank you all for joining me today. wolf will be back soon. that's it for us. cnn's coverage of the pope's visit to america continues after a quick break.
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hi i'm brooke baldwin, you're watching cnn's coverage of the pope's first visit to america. his time in the nation's capital may be fleeting, but the elect he generated over the past couple days remains. he's now back at the embassy of sorts for the vatican there in washington. a bit of a break before his flight here to new york after a big final morning there in d.c. i can tell you he just wrapped up lunch with washington's homeless population there. the people who are wonderful enough each and every day to serve them. and before that, just a really incredible moment up an capitol hill. the first time ever a hope addressed the u.s. congress bringing everyone inside of that chamber both sides of the aisle to


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